The often referred to 3 'R's has been about the elemental skills of education involving 'rithmetic, 'riting & reading, In Malaysia, there is positively the miss of the third, namely, celebration of the mass ability as can be observed from the comments at blogsites, wakakaka.
RPK has lamented upon this, which you rescued in the single postofhis where the caller challenged him upon issues he had actually explained comprehensively in which post, wakakaka.
I as well suffered front the same experienced. In my postsNow, who are the Arab wannabes?andThe Church & AllahI consternation at Malaysian educational standards and/or the miss of celebration of the mass (and comprehensive) skills of my visitors, together with those who read my posts published by Malaysia-Today, when they sermonized to me (wakakaka, excuse the unintended pun) abouttheetymology as well as history (during Dutch colonial Indonesia) as well as the Court's statute in the have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of of the word Allah, but celebration of the mass which you had actually written, as follows (extracting from the two posts mentioned):
MAIS informed us HRH Sultan Selangor has intended which the word Allah is the sacred word specific to Muslims in the fatwa gazetted 3 years ago, as well as to illustrate contingency not be used by any non-Muslim sacrament in Selangor.
Look mateys, there contingency be no doubt which while HRH is the constitutional monarchy, he has the purpose which entitles him to emanate approach decrees, which is, those upon Islamic affairs in his state of Selangor, as he is the conduct oftheIslamic sacrament in Selangor.
And upon suchIslamicissues, it has been claimed which hewouldbeadvised by the Menteri Besar (MB).
It has been precisely this factor, which of the MB of the state or his emissary advising HRH upon Islamic affairs, which in Mar 2008, rught away after the general election, you saw Khalid Ibrahim, afterwards allocated MB of Selangor, daub dancing away! from ap pointing his deputy.
But Khalid Ibrahim did not understanding courageously with the three times domestic whammy (to him) candidate proposed as his deputy, the single who was/is the Chabor (woman), Chinese as well as the Christian (all rolled into one), the triple-C cause which sh*tted him ...
Nonetheless, out of respect for HRH, in any case of either the allegations attributed to him were loyal or otherwise (as the little Malaysians have the bad robe of dropping big names together with HRH's for their own agenda), the triple-C (Chabor, Christian as well as Chinese) Teresa Kok was not allocated as emissary MB.
While no the single should question HRH as well as his stately privilege upon counts Islam, you need to ask the simple, question: Since it'sonly upon counts Islamthat the constitutional kingdom has any approach say or right to emanate decrees, how is his 3-year old fatwa, in spite of his new reminder, to be practical to non-Muslims such as Christians as well as the Church, or for which matter, the non-evangelistic Sikhs whose holy book is not even in Bahasa?
Then, this constitutional indicate effectively equates to which the Church can go on to legally have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of the Allah word but any fear of violating HRH's command, which is usually germane to Muslims as well as Islamic institutions in Selangor.
RPK has lamented upon this, which you rescued in the single postofhis where the caller challenged him upon issues he had actually explained comprehensively in which post, wakakaka.
I as well suffered front the same experienced. In my postsNow, who are the Arab wannabes?andThe Church & AllahI consternation at Malaysian educational standards and/or the miss of celebration of the mass (and comprehensive) skills of my visitors, together with those who read my posts published by Malaysia-Today, when they sermonized to me (wakakaka, excuse the unintended pun) abouttheetymology as well as history (during Dutch colonial Indonesia) as well as the Court's statute in the have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of of the word Allah, but celebration of the mass which you had actually written, as follows (extracting from the two posts mentioned):
Given the experts' etymological as well as historical clarifications upon the Allah word, you am in no doubt which Father Lawrence Andrew is upon strong authorised drift to have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of it ... as well as indeed you know which the court has supported his stand. []
Legally, High Court Judge Lau Bee Lan had ruled as unconstitution! al the M alaysian government's ban of the have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of of Allah as the Bahasa equivalent of the word God in the Catholic Herald. []
I'm afraid upon the personal basis, kaytee isn't all which understanding of the Church's insistence upon regulating the Allah word to represent/indicate/describe their Christian God in the Malay language. []
But you have regularly believed which sacrament is about faith as well as morality as well as not legality or for which matter, domestic approval. Thus you find it unfortunate which the Father Andrew as well as the Catholic Herald had taken the emanate to the courts. Surely upon the have the difference of eremite faith as well as knowledge, there are numerous alternative names of God it could have have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of next to Allah. you perspective the arguments for the have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of of Allah as seemingly formed upon obduracy as well as legality rsther than than any trustworthy unavoidable reason.
I afterwards went upon to item my challenge to Father Lawrence Andrew's arguments.
Apart from sharpened down Father Andrew's arguments which the Allah word is critical since the Tuhan word is unsound for serving the summary in the little biblical passages, you additionally voiced my sympathy for the Muslim community's concerns for the reason you know the Christian Church has an evangelistic goal ...
... as well as endowing it with the Bahasa version of the Bible (al Kitab) which uses the Allah word to impute to the Christian god would be same to asking lil'! Johnny to thoughts the cookie jar to ensure it's not raided, the totally impractical expectation.
I have been as well as still am deeply concerned which the potential (and tangible realization) of the emanate of Christian proselytizing of Muslims, will destabilize serve the already unsure politically-affected inter-communal relationship, with all the attendant unpleasant consequences, ...
... of which you performed an ugly glance of when the mufti sms-ed his followers to stop the built case of the church in Perak proselytizing Muslims.
On New Year's day you had the chitchat with my matey, Ong Kian Ming whose Malaysiakini articleAllah row - what's the name of the game?I had challenged.
Kian Ming was his usual gentlemanly self where he kindly took upon the charge of explaining to me the logistical problems concerned in switching from al Kitab's Allah word to what you have suggested, to wit, Yahweh, Elohim as well as the horde of alternative Hebraic appellations which the Christian god is better well known by intheChristian world.
I've beenimpressed by Kian Ming's masterly learn upon the logistic issue, though it contingency be noted as well both of usdidn'ttouch upon the Church's evangelistic angle. Unfortunately due to pressing before engagements you wasnotable to go on discussion with him upon the topic.
But nonetheless, the indicate you wish to have is which while Ididn'tand still don't await th! e Church 's intention to have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of the Allah word, you have never questioned the authorised rights (thus far, until the government's interest is known) to have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of which word in the newsletter, the Catholic Herald, as well as al Kitab.
I am taking the difficulty to reiterate this since (a) of the poor celebration of the mass skills of the little visitors wakakaka, as well as (b) the bearing of this brand new post.
This brand new post refers to an essay inThe Malaysian Insider, namely,Non-Muslims contingency not have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of 'Allah', says Selangor Sultan.
MAIS informed us HRH Sultan Selangor has intended which the word Allah is the sacred word specific to Muslims in the fatwa gazetted 3 years ago, as well as to illustrate contingency not be used by any non-Muslim sacrament in Selangor.
Look mateys, there contingency be no doubt which while HRH is the constitutional monarchy, he has the purpose which entitles him to emanate approach decrees, which is, those upon Islamic affairs in his state of Selangor, as he is the conduct oftheIslamic sacrament in Selangor.
And upon suchIslamicissues, it has been claimed which hewouldbeadvised by the Menteri Besar (MB).
It has been precisely this factor, which of the MB of the state or his emissary advising HRH upon Islamic affairs, which in Mar 2008, rught away after the general election, you saw Khalid Ibrahim, afterwards allocated MB of Selangor, daub dancing away! from ap pointing his deputy.
DAP, the second largest component of the spontaneous (winning) coalition in Selangor, had nominated sweetie Teresa Kok to be the emissary MB.
... while the beside State of Perak additionally saw HRH Regent sidelined Ngeh Koo Ham of DAP (the Pakatan celebration with the many series of ADUNs) as well as picked instead Nizar Jamaluddin of PAS (the Pakatan celebration with the least series of ADUNs) to be the state's brand new MB. Mind you, HRH's choice, for whatever reason, incited out to be the serendipitious the single for us.
It was purported which Muhammad Munir Bani, the Selangor sultan's in isolation secretary, had suggested Khalid Ibrahim about the palace's 'preference' for the Malay (and, alas, not the Malaysian) emissary MB.
However, Muhammad Munir denied reports which HRH longed for 'a emissary from the sold race' (meaning 'Malay'), although headdedthe sultan was the eremite conduct for Islam as well as Malay culture, as well as to illustrate the MB has the charge of aiding in these duties, which in his absence would additionally have to handled by his deputy.
In which many unbelievable zigzagging explanation, Muhammad Munir, after denying HRH longed for the Malay emissary MB, in the same exhale averred which it was ! usually scold the Malay (not the Malaysian) be the emissary MB.
Following that, Malaysiakini reported inExpert: No authorised need for Malay emissary MBthat Prof Abdul Aziz Bari, the constitutional expert who lectured law at the International Islamic University Malaysia, was consulted upon the matter.
Prof Abdul Aziz dismissed Muhammad Munir's claims which the emissary MB should ideally be the Malay to support the MB in Islamic as well as cultural duties.
The Prof said:"The Sultan of Selangor does not need the menteri besar or the emissary menteri besar in counts pertaining to sacrament as well as Malay custom."
According to the Prof, the sultan, as the conduct of Islamic counts as well as the Malay adat, is the chairman in charge of such counts in the state, as well as not the MB or his deputy.
He said:"Matters cited by the palace are entirely inside of the sultan's jurisdiction. As the sultan might act upon his own discretion upon these matters, the constitution provides which the council might be allocated to support him. This is what is ordinarily well known as eremite councils or majlis agama, which looks after the eremite department or the jabatan agama. In the alternative four states as well as sovereign territories, the Agong will have the same establishment."
Prof Abdul Aziz additionally commented which the prolonged delay in the appointment of the emissary MB was nonessential as well as might even be unconstitutional.
! But when asked either the appointment of the Deputy MB had been postponed or scrapped altogether, Khalid Ibrahim side-stepped the emanate by saying the need to insist the have the difference (what?) properly to the people (who?), as well as which he would do this after the executive councillors had been sworn-in (why?).
In HRH's latest fatwa, which has beenentirelywithin his stately privilege as the headof theIslamic sacrament in Selangor, which non-Muslims contingency not have make have make make make make make use of of of of of of of of the Allah word, you consternation either HRH was suggested by MB Khalid Ibrahim, or MAIS, or which HRH had acted upon his own?
According to The Malaysian Insider, MAIS cabinet member Datuk Mohd Misri Idris pronounced HRH had instructed MAIS as well as the Selangor Islamic Religious Department JAIS to take unrelenting movement opp! osite an y Muslim or non-Muslim who questioned or belittled the edict released as well as gazetted according to Selangor laws.
But usually how will JAIS or MAIS do which to non-Muslims whenneitherhas any office over non-Muslims?
If you might be so confidant as to add, alas, while you respect as well as adore HRH, unfortunately his Islamic fatwa cannot be practical to non-Muslims. If you am constitutionally as well as legally wrong upon this point, greatfully scold me rught away as well as you will apologise many profusely as well as humbly implore HRH for the stately pardon.
Now, whoever has suggested HRH upon this matter, either it's Khalid Ibrahim or MAIS, as well as if my take upon constitutional law is correct, afterwards which advisor (Khalid Ibrahim or MAIS, or both) has/have provided bad bad bad recommendation to HRH, who positively loses face as the Church group, quite legally, insists thatdespite stately decree, Protestant churches say will keep regulating 'Allah'- as well as you haven't even come totheCatholic church yet.
Off with their heads?
Hmmm, you consternation either sweetie Teresa Kok as the triple-C emissary MB could have finished better in! advising HRH upon this issue?
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