So eventually after so prolonged a central reply from JAIS is out after a highly as common politicised laced situation between these eremite officials, cops as good as a DUMC fellows.
One contingency step delicately upon a correct word to do or what notice to have when these objects have been involved:
-Hall in a church
-People you can safely contend of a infancy races together with Malays
-Religious affiliation of a people you can safely contend a infancy religions together with Islam
-Food served
-Speech or difference spoken
-Religious officials around
-Cops around
The above have been permanent evidence.
Now come a obscure parts yet a little select to hold they have been as permanent facts:
-Not speech though prayers
-Not Christian prayers since Islamic difference additionally used
-Not invocation makan makan for a village work great finished though pointed conversion
-Muslim participation goal not for invocation makan makan
-Not what organisers insist as thank you makan makan since unknown inform pronounced otherwise
-Not a raid though a check, a visit, an investigation
-Official since law allows
-No need explanation becuase law allows
-Police to forestall untoward situation than assistance raid
-Not check upon makan makan though goal during a back of it check upon Muslim presences
So is a emanate about semantics or freedom of association or freedom of sacrament or a actuality of a have a difference is that a law allows a check, visit, raid or what have you?
And if a Muslims have been asked to attend counselling, doesn't it imply that to a Jais, they already pennyless a law as good as a counselling direct itself is justification that a church was not holding a interjection giving though trying to do a little pointed acclimatisation perhaps?
If a officials can confirm upon a stop orders to attend counselling, they contingency have listened really damning behaviour by these organises as good as that a po! ser prot est or inform they received was 100% correct as good as truthful!
And since is usually a single party, a Muslims who attende! d were ' punished' whilst justification contingency be gathered against a organisers to infer they have been guilty as good as should be ISA-ed for being a hazard to a security of a central sacrament as good as a country, no?
And what difficulty was a cops trying to prevent? From a organisers escaped arrest, stopping a revisit or nabbing those Muslims trying to 'escape'? Their tagging along is clear that JAIS has a law to do what they have been doing, even if it's formed upon a little mysterious inform by whatever channel doesn't have a difference right? Wonder if they got an sms from that Catholic Blogger Alliance Penang fello that this Christian group have been not great fellows with Bersih links!
The Christians as good as a rest of BolehLand won't care a hoot if a organisers have been hurled up if they pennyless a law prolyestising to Muslims! They deserved it kau kau since they know it is illegal, against a law in BolehLand to do that. They can do that in London or Holland or Singapore no a single cares. But in BolehLand you have been foolish as good as give a bad repute to alternative churches who do not try to be smart or saints or martyrs!
But a be concerned for non Muslims is not that these JAIS officials have each right to barge or rather pay a courtesy call or revisit or accessible discuss though that each time they hold an event, they will be a shaken lot to unexpected be approximate by clerics in robes with cops during a back of them to 'watch' over each movement they do.
Even if a audience does not have Muslims it's not an issue. They need to get that green light 'halal' OK from these JAIS fellos prior to they can continue in peace!!!
It is a fear, anxiety of non Muslims that they will be visited by both their accessible cops as good as eremite officials during a same time for any non eremite duty they organise in their clos! eness or with their support!
It doesn't have a difference if they waited for a event to be over. The actuality is that this 'big eremite brother' is examination your each pierce is intimidating enough.
Noone can speak reason or against their participation beca! use you have been asking for difficulty with a cops around to forestall any a single from obstructing these eremite officials movement right?
They have a right as good as as they always say, a LAW that allows them. And a woman monarch being a Head of a religion, you act of rebuttal can be interpreted as a have a difference of actuality you have been going against a woman monarch as good as you have been going to commit mutiny as good as even treason for insulting a Ruler, King as good as country for that have a difference as good right?
So it's not about Muslims being benefaction during any event. It's a 24/7 anxiety of not meaningful when you run foul of a law formed upon a little unknown tip or what have you.
Wonder if a Catholics carrying village rite in their homes will likewise be tipped off as good as land themselves in to difficulty for carrying an bootleg entertainment as good as praying as good as worshipping when their next door neighbour is a Muslim or their prayers listened conflicting a Muslim home!
Think exaggeration here? It can happen right? It's easy to infer it. just tip off JAIS if your next door neighbour is holding a prayer rite as good as discuss it them it is causing Muslim distress as good as a fright that their immature kids will additionally infect yours since they fool around together as good as what have you!!!
The JAIS movement usually seeks to emanate guess among non Muslims as good as those Muslims who consider everyone is out to modify them as good as in jeopardy a faith of over billions of Muslims as good as call JAIS to save souls in jeopardy or find out if any have been among a crowd!
This situation shows that non Muslims have been powerless as good as can be ind! icted of all wrongs by small suspicion.
Of march many will argue, you need to demeanour for evidences as good as facts as good as to do that, they need to go find out themselves right? Given this, no a single should have a bitch or politicised it since even if a single Muslim is benefaction it's sufficient to contend 'evidence' found.
Even if nothing was present, you still need to go by a review as good as check to settle a actuality or falsehood of a little tip off right?
Should you intent if a JAIS hotline is advertised ev! eryday a nd should not feel intimidated or consider you have been a little theocratic exploration kind of order as good as state huh?
Non Muslim do not hold anymore that they have been since a freedom of rite since such non eremite event have been additionally casting fright as good as serve doubt upon what they can or cannot do in a participation or even absence of Muslims!!!
Perhaps a most appropriate for non Muslims is for JAIS to impose a 'halal' ruling that any non Muslim relgious organization organising anything should give a list to them as good as get a halal certification as good as put it in their church notice board or church wall they got a JAIS halal certification that they can carry out their eremite obligations since JAIS has been satisfied a Sunday mass is as good as soley a Christian affair, no?
Wouldn't requiring alternative religios to get such 'dog tag' animal permit solve a lot of unnecessary anxiety, misinterpretations as great as political opportunists for fighting a lost cause huh?
Think it's absurd? It's BolehLand remember, anything 'boleh jadi' remember!
You need accede for roughly anything that has a smallest hint of weakening a umat!
So corporations beware of holding events were haram drinks or cocktails have been served or in eremite compound alternative than suraus.
And alternative religions should do great to post a warnng during their compounds like those you read upon what happens to trespassers! upon pr ivate property right?
So JAIS it is not about semantics though rather a LAW that gives you sweepoing pwers as good as you using it during a smallest pretext as good as hint that worries non Muslims.
If a law is explicit as good as gives a single a authority, there is no room for any a single to even expel guess as good as subject that management right? The law gives a single a right to doubt you as good as additionally spin doubts, assumptions or miss of it in to law too. The ISA as good as EO have been box in point.
And since JAIS is trying to discuss it everyone as good as noone seems to want to attend or accept a actuality they got a energy so their acts or revisit is fit under any c! ircumsta nces as good as should never be misinterpreted nor politicised as good right?
That being a case, no need for Pakatan or even BN to need to insist generally to non Muslims huh?
And a church's press recover upon a situation should be a distortion as good as stating falsehood then as good as JAIS' press recover is an permanent actuality as good as should be accepted as loyal right? After all, a underlying indicate is, a Fact of Law give them each right to be benefaction there doesn't have a difference before, during or after a event - Or a visit, inspection, review or even a raid!
After all eremite officials have finished all these actions prior to so what's this bitch this time. Remember a raid upon a foreign integrate late night during a legal holiday resort or a immature integrate hurled up for holding hands? To our eremite department as good as officials, they have each right to do what they did upon a foreign integrate or a non Muslim paktoh integrate than this church visit, yes?
So supporters of JAIS actions as good as JAIS themselves see no wrong, since should a others as good right? You do not subject in BolehLand a laws of a land. Haven't you been reminded as good as told sufficient by both eremite officials as good as politicians too, huh?
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Friday Aug 12, 2011
Jais: It was a check, not raid
SHAH ALAM: The Selangor Islamic Affairs Department (Jais) pronounced it did not conduct a raid upon a Damansara Utama Methodist Church, adding that it was usually a check.
Jais director Marzuki Hussin pronounced a check to demeanour for Muslims was conducted together with a military during 9.45pm upon Aug 3, adding that this was supposing for under a Syariah Criminal Enactment (Selangor) 1995.
He pronounced a department had received information that a buka puasa was to be held together with a invocation dinner during a church.
Marzuki pronounced discussions with a organisers was held outside a duty gymnasium of a church, that did not constitute a raid, adding that Jais had not acted aggressively or trespassed in to a church.
In fact, Jais officials asked fo! r permis sion to enter as good as were authorised in to a gymnasium where they waited. They conducted a check after a rite was over during 11pm, he said.
Stressing that Jais coercion officers did not act aggressively that night, Marzuki pronounced he was disappointed that Jais' movement had been deemed unethical, although a officers were usually behaving their duties.
Only after a ceremony, that was attended by about 100 people, was over did you perform a check.
In less than 10 minutes, Jais coercion officers as good as a military were destined to leave a gymnasium by a organisers.
Although a act challenges a powers of Jais as good as a military in enforcing a law upon Muslims, Jais as good as a military did not detain a organisers or have any arrest, he said.
He pronounced twelve Muslims were present, adding that they usually had their details recorded as good as were asked to attend a counselling session with Jais.
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YAHMEH!!!
Referring to The Malaysian Insiders report upon a emanate this morning, Lim (picture) forked out which Datuk Seri Nazri Azizs make a difference which Putrajaya could drain billions of ringgit because of Tajuddins retaliation binds no water as a latters RM13 billion suit had already been deserted by a court.
