The following have been excerpts of an exclusive interview with Raja Petra Kamarudin hold recently. The editor of theMalaysia Todaynews portal, who is in exile in the United Kingdom, sat down with theNew Sunday Timesat the hotel suite in Singapore for over dual hours to plead Malaysian politics. Looking fresh after his legal holiday in Phuket, the Selan! gor prin ce spoke among others about his former ally Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, the antithesis front as great as the Najib administration.
New Straits Times
On Anwar as great as his sodomy trial
Question:They speak about order of law, though when the court does not order in their favour, they will contend there is no eccentric judiciary. We know there's the single verdict coming out upon January 9. What is your comment?
Question:They speak about order of law, though when the court does not order in their favour, they will contend there is no eccentric judiciary. We know there's the single verdict coming out upon January 9. What is your comment?
Answer:Well we consider we have the bigger fish to fry. This agenda for change... theperjuangancannot be about personalities. Now, we should not revoke thisperjuanganinto the onslaught for Anwar. Even Mandela went to prison for twenty-seven years, there was not the campaign to free Mandela. Even yet there were groups, the Free Mandela Group. It was the campaign to end apartheid. But not to free Mandela, as most as Mandela was the catalyst. And we am sure Mandela is the most bigger figure than Anwar by far, in conditions of historical importance.
And what we be concerned is which we will be shortening the onslaught in to the onslaught forAnwarista. And do not forget,Anwaristais the word which we invented behind in 1999 .Anwaristais the transformation for Anwar. We do not wish anAnwarista. Now, if Anwar goes to jail, as great as if he goes to prison as the domestic prisoner, that's an additional issue.
! In Myan mar, it's about the domestic prisoner. It's about freeing the domestic prisoner. But Anwar is being put upon hearing not upon domestic grounds though upon criminal grounds. Now the emanate of Anwar, either he is or is not guilty of sodomy, either Anwar was fixed up as great as is the plant of the sham trial, as great as so on, that's an additional issue. But the indicate still remains: either he got the hearing which he wanted.
Question: Sometimes people dont consider about about the victim, which is Saiful.
Question: Sometimes people dont consider about about the victim, which is Saiful.
Answer:Actually, we have been sleepy of this emanate of sodomy. We wish the total thing over as great as finished with. In fact, we're anticipating the hearing is finished instead of being dragged on.
Question:But he was the a single who dragged it.
Question:But he was the a single who dragged it.
Answer: Yes, though the total nation gets dragged along. We do not need this. The total country's future cannot depend upon the single man.
On Anwar as great as the Selangor administration
Let's speak about the jewel in the crown, of march Selangor. Now we look during Selangor. Are there most extreme changes in Selangor? The feedback we get from business people as great as this is the yardstick we use, crime is the same, there is no rebate in corruption. People still have to pay 'under the table' to get things done, as great as that's the most important thing we have been fighting for, great governance. So we destroy upon which score. We complained to Anwar. We told him people have been not happy. The Selangor people have been not happy as great as don't assume we have been starting to retai! n Selang or. There is the great chance Selangor will go behind to Barisan given people have been not happy, as great as Anwar's reply, as great as this was during the meeting: the trouble with Khalid is ego,tak mau dengar cakap. (refused to listen). Cannot carry out him. we pronounced we allo! cated hi m as MB. We have been revelation we Selangor is not performing. You have been revelation me we have the complaint with him as great as the complaint is he got an ego, he doesn't listen. So what have been we starting to do about it? You combined the monster. What have been we starting to do about it?
On Anwar as great as the Selangor administration
Let's speak about the jewel in the crown, of march Selangor. Now we look during Selangor. Are there most extreme changes in Selangor? The feedback we get from business people as great as this is the yardstick we use, crime is the same, there is no rebate in corruption. People still have to pay 'under the table' to get things done, as great as that's the most important thing we have been fighting for, great governance. So we destroy upon which score. We complained to Anwar. We told him people have been not happy. The Selangor people have been not happy as great as don't assume we have been starting to retai! n Selang or. There is the great chance Selangor will go behind to Barisan given people have been not happy, as great as Anwar's reply, as great as this was during the meeting: the trouble with Khalid is ego,tak mau dengar cakap. (refused to listen). Cannot carry out him. we pronounced we allo! cated hi m as MB. We have been revelation we Selangor is not performing. You have been revelation me we have the complaint with him as great as the complaint is he got an ego, he doesn't listen. So what have been we starting to do about it? You combined the monster. What have been we starting to do about it?
He allocated himself as mercantile advisor. What's your advice? In the final 3 years given we have been mercantile advisor, you've left abroad 60 times. Sixty times abroad trips in the mere 3 years. Shouldn't we be staying home using the state? Running the party? Running the coalition? The bloc is in the mess. People have been fighting with each other. What's his comment? No comment. Total silence. We told him: stay home, run the state, run the party, coalition.
Will Anwar fade away?
Because it is politically judicious to await Anwar. Because there's the possibility which we have been starting to form the subsequent federal government. But if we do not form the subsequent federal government, afterwards we have to wait for an additional 5 years. Anwar will become not pertinent very, really fast. Can Pakatan form the subsequent supervision as great as therefore continue with Anwar's relevancy? It would depend upon Sabah as great as Sarawak. You got 165 council seats in west Malaysia. Out of 165 council seats, how most can Pakatan win? 85? Say Pakatan wins 85, they grab the 5 MCA seats, grabbing 85 council seats in west Malaysia. And afterwards Barisan usually left with 80 seats, with 70 will be Umno. ! And usually 10 for the others MCA, maybe MIC, zero, or Gerakan one.
Will Anwar fade away?
Because it is politically judicious to await Anwar. Because there's the possibility which we have been starting to form the subsequent federal government. But if we do not form the subsequent federal government, afterwards we have to wait for an additional 5 years. Anwar will become not pertinent very, really fast. Can Pakatan form the subsequent supervision as great as therefore continue with Anwar's relevancy? It would depend upon Sabah as great as Sarawak. You got 165 council seats in west Malaysia. Out of 165 council seats, how most can Pakatan win? 85? Say Pakatan wins 85, they grab the 5 MCA seats, grabbing 85 council seats in west Malaysia. And afterwards Barisan usually left with 80 seats, with 70 will be Umno. ! And usually 10 for the others MCA, maybe MIC, zero, or Gerakan one.
So we have to go to Sabah as great as Sarawak, which has 57, together with Labuan. Last election, Pakatan usually won two. And 55 was with Barisan Nasional. Here in west Malaysia, final choosing we won 80, as great as afterwards won an additional dual by-elections in Kuala Terengganu as great as Bukit Gantang. You supplement in by- elections we got 82. But we won 80 i! n west M alaysia. So from 80 to 85 by taking divided the 5 MCA seats, OK lah. It's the in accord with forecast. But we usually won dual in easterly Malaysia. 55 (seats) was won by Barisan.
How most we design to increase? You need 30 from easterly Malaysia. So 30 as well as here (west Malaysia) 85, we usually got 115, which equates to we usually get the 3 chair majority. But if 3 people jump, we lose the government. So ideally, we need the 10 or 15 chair majority. Which equates to we need to try to get 35 seats from easterly Malaysia. Thirty-five as well as this one, afterwards we get 120. That's the gentle margin. But how have been we starting to get 35 seats from easterly Malaysia? You usually got dual in the final election.
To burst from 80 to 85 is reasonable. But to burst from dual to 35, that's the bit too distant to jump. To get 35 seats from easterly Malaysia, we must have the clever coalition. What happened in the Sarawak state choosing recently? DAP did really well, though that's it. Because DAP usually took the Chinese seats, though outside that...habis. They couldn't do it in the state election, what makes we consider they can do it in the ubiquitous election?
If we could have finished it, we would have finished it already. The actuality which we weren't means to do it equates to we can't do it. Sabah is in the mess. So we don't see how from dual seats, we have been starting to enlarge to 35 in easterly Malaysia. Maybe, we can enlarge it to 10. But 10 as well as this, it's still 95.
Leadership transition inside of Pakatan
Anwar projects himself as the future leader usually given Pakatan allows him to do so. So since does Pakatan concede which to happen? We have been formulating this impression, this fallacy which there is usually the single male which can lead the opposition. DAP made the statement which even if Anwar goes to jail, they still await him. Are we observant there is nobody else? T! he fault lies in DAP, Pas, as great as Anwar goes around articulate about the celebration given he has got the party, who appears to accept him as great as usually him as their leader.
Leadership transition inside of Pakatan
Anwar projects himself as the future leader usually given Pakatan allows him to do so. So since does Pakatan concede which to happen? We have been formulating this impression, this fallacy which there is usually the single male which can lead the opposition. DAP made the statement which even if Anwar goes to jail, they still await him. Are we observant there is nobody else? T! he fault lies in DAP, Pas, as great as Anwar goes around articulate about the celebration given he has got the party, who appears to accept him as great as usually him as their leader.
And when people similar to (Datuk) Zaid Ibrahim comes along as an alternative, which there can be pick people, they kill him off. They won't accept. Anwar goes around the nation articulate as great as he's great when it comes toceramah. But is which the magnitude of his support? Many elections which we had left around personally, by-elections even where the throng is there, though how is it when it comes to the votes?
we have spoken to the little people who were with him when he was in the government. They have forked out what he did. And we asked him as great as they say, 'You know, Anwar has his shortcomings.' Anwar has his skeletons in the closet. Yet we await Pakatan. Their answer is, 'What choice do we have.' It all boils down to that. What choice do we have?
People await Anwar purely given they see him as the usually pick to what we have now.
Lessons from Egypt
Question:You as great as your people (in MCLM) have been essay for all these changes in your own way. Don't we consider the current Barisan Nasional supervision is we do which in sure ways by expansion rather than revolution?
Lessons from Egypt
Question:You as great as your people (in MCLM) have been essay for all these changes in your own way. Don't we consider the current Barisan Nasional supervision is we do which in sure ways by expansion rather than revolution?
Answer:Yeah, we regularly contend as we regularly hear about evolutionary shift as opposed to insubordinate change. In the little countries, evolutionary shift has to be put aside in foster of insubordinate change.
Let's be practical. In Malaysia, the insubordinate shift cannot work given of the really ethereal racial balance. We can speak about it in Egypt given in Egypt everybody's Egyptian. Every male upon the travel is Egyptian. In Malaysia, not every male upon the travel is the Malay. So this is some-more delicate. So we suppose for the nation where it is not multiracial, or not ! delicate ly multiracially balanced, it is easier to achieve which kind of the belligerent approach of changing.
They (Chinese voters) don't wish Tahrir Square sort of change. But even afterwards we merely enter upon upon evolutionary changes...small changes. we consider it's time Najib grabs the longhorn by the horns, as great as call the scoop the spade.
On cracks inside of the opposition
What have been they doing? In Penang, they have been fighting: DAP contra DAP. In Perak, they have been fighting: DAP contra DAP. In Selangor, they have been fighting: PKR contra PKR. Pas contra Pas. In Johor, they have been fighting: PKR contra DAP. In Sarawak, they have been fighting. No, we have been not fighting Barisan. No, we have been fighting each other. You consider the electorate have been starting to adore we for that? In fact, the electorate have been right away commencement to say: This time we go behind to Barisan, dont consider about about Pakatan. That is my really honest....I am not ancillary Barisan, we am not observant Barisan is the most appropriate government, though Pakatan has not shown it can be the improved government. That's all, as great as we am not observant it. The electorate have been observant it. we am revelation we what the electorate have been saying.
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What have been they doing? In Penang, they have been fighting: DAP contra DAP. In Perak, they have been fighting: DAP contra DAP. In Selangor, they have been fighting: PKR contra PKR. Pas contra Pas. In Johor, they have been fighting: PKR contra DAP. In Sarawak, they have been fighting. No, we have been not fighting Barisan. No, we have been fighting each other. You consider the electorate have been starting to adore we for that? In fact, the electorate have been right away commencement to say: This time we go behind to Barisan, dont consider about about Pakatan. That is my really honest....I am not ancillary Barisan, we am not observant Barisan is the most appropriate government, though Pakatan has not shown it can be the improved government. That's all, as great as we am not observant it. The electorate have been observant it. we am revelation we what the electorate have been saying.
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