YOURSAY 'This is the foolish answer since by Agriculture Minister Noh Omar. The income is the rakyat's income as well as the supervision is responsible.'
Cow condo purchase: 'Gov't has no say'
Open Minded: we am not certain either we have read it correctly. Agriculture Minister Noh Omar stated which the supervision has no control as to how the National Feedlot Corporation (NFC) income is spent once it is disbursed.
No consternation the turn of insurance of supports for their dictated as well as solicited use is up to the recipient, ! as well as it the llows room for unethical as well as frivolous usage as there is no monitoring resource in place.
As we see it, the income is open supports as well as contingency not be used to speculate on stocks or skill or anything apart from the dictated purpose.
Already we have been spending tomorrow's income as well as this spells doom for the future generation, who could end up being general beggars or the source of cheap labour.
Malaysians cannot hope for change though removing the problem. The signs have been really obvious - it's necessary to foot out this group of wolves in sheep's clothing.
Oscar Kilo: "If there was indeed (a purchase of the condominium) afterwards definitely such claims would not be disbursed, because the disbursements need the capitulation from the technical committee chaired by the executive of Veterinary Department as well as the Finance Ministry," said Noh Omar.
But the income was disbursed. So how?
L Joy: Of cou rse, this Umno apportion knows which income can't be used for investing on skill because any loan since for any sold role has always been specified in the loan conditions to be! useable for which purpose, as well as which only.
The apportion knows he is fibbing undisguised because he certainly contingency have during the single time taken out the bank loan which says the income is for shopping houses only. These fibbing Umno ministers will contend anything, no make the difference how stupid, to fend off questions of impropriety.
There is tainted fool around right from day the single because the supervision has awarded contracts to the top politician's family. Get which right. The supervision contingency be charged for criminal crack of trust, zero less.
Onyourtoes: Please do not rinse your hands on this matter. The association gets the soothing loan from the government, as if during favoured seductiveness rates or though even carrying to compensate it back. How afterwards can we concede the income to be disbursed though correct scrutiny?
It is unthinkable to me the supervision leaders can be which careless. Let me ask we the elementary question - if it is your own money, would we want to do this plan or expend the income which carelessly?
Minister, in the past, corruption used to represent 10 percent of the worth of the project, as well as for that, out of no choice, the people had to stomach it. Now, as we can see, corruption is 90 percent of the worth of the project.
It is not lik! e the pe ople have been of course anti-government or anti-BN. How can the people accept this when those involved in the swindle have been still in office as well as enjoying the great life?
By the way, what happened to the tuna fish plan - we know, catching the tuna in the Indian Ocean as well as towing them to Penang? The holds on this plan have already been issued.! < br>
Pity Him: Donkeys have been smarter. RM181 million has been disbursed though checks as well as balances for the project, as well as they have been treating the nation's income as rightfully theirs.
Bernard Phillips: Does the apportion realise usually how absurd his make the difference is to the public. But perhaps which easily explains usually how the nation is being administered.
For years as we drive around Kuala Lumpur as well as see the lush multimillion dollar bunglows as well as apartments, we consternation usually who could afford to live in them. Well, we need consternation no more. It is the brand new chosen of Malaysian society - those Umno-BN politicians as well as their cronies.
Did the apportion get the 7-10 discount because she is the bumiputera? And who pays for these? The stupid Malaysians who continue to vote in these parasites.
But we do have another event to send the summary to Umno as well as BN. So people set aside your teenager differences - it doesn't make the difference either we have been the Malay or non-Malay, Muslim or non-Muslim.
There is usually the single common foe, the mildew which has permeated the beloved nation digest it diseased as well as ill as well as the laughing stock of the world. Which alternative nation in the universe have been there politicans who so openly rape the resources so unashamedly?
D4f: Money since out is as great as gone to the bottom of the ocean. That's Umno's logic.
Ksn: Was not the loan of RM250 million since for the specific role during low seductiveness rates, viz to produce beef so which the country's import of the beef will be drastically reduced?
Can which loan be used for purposes alternative than specified similar to shopping condos, etc, as well as stupidly call it investment? Is it not the crack of! conditi ons? What about the M&A (memorandum as well as articles) of the company? Does it concede such investments? Should not the directors be hold responsible?
Under the circumstances, should not the loan which is open supports be recalled. Instead of we do things to guarantee as well as direct refunds, we have ministers similar to this one, putting! their h ands up as well as pleading helplessness?
Is it being said here which the supervision is infirm to redress the situation? Will the nation soon hear which the RM250 million is created off as bad debt?
Swipenter: Noh Omar, please discuss it us either the RM181 million so far disbursed to NFC from the SLA (special loan account) was in accordance with progressive work done.
You may not have the answer right away though can we check 'with the technical committee chaired by the executive of the Veterinary Department as well as the Finance Ministry'.
Who verified as well as authorized the tangible earthy swell work finished as well as was it audited thereafter? Everybody knows which swell payments have been disbursed according to tangible amount of work finished though here they certified which there were no cows then.
Was the loan progressively disbursed against paper claims submitted by NFC with no earthy on the site verification?
And the brilliant idea of shopping the RM9.6 penthouse as investment instead of leaving the income resting in the bank by NLMC (National Livestock as well as Meats Corporation) - in the first place, how could NFC accede to the loan to NLMC when there were no cows for them to marketplace then?
Tkc: If the contract was scrupulously drawn up, we am certain there is the clause in there which says which if the supports have been not used for its dictated purposes, the supervision has the right to recall the loans.
There will! also be alternative prerequisites such as expected IRR (internal rate of return), personal guarantees, collaterals, debentures, etc. In short, there have been copiousness of opportunities for the supervision - the appointed guardians of taxpayers' monies - to penalise NFC if it longed for to.
Artchan: The supervision may claim to have no say, though can't the supervision direct some burden from Shahrizat Abdul Jalil's family?
Technically speaking, they cheated. They took the income for the cattle plan as well as used the income to buy the condo. we would expect them to be queried as to why the association drew down the allocation when there were no cows being supplied to the market?
Or is Shahrizat taking Mohd Noh for the cow?
Cow condo purchase: 'Gov't has no say'
Open Minded: we am not certain either we have read it correctly. Agriculture Minister Noh Omar stated which the supervision has no control as to how the National Feedlot Corporation (NFC) income is spent once it is disbursed.No consternation the turn of insurance of supports for their dictated as well as solicited use is up to the recipient, ! as well as it the llows room for unethical as well as frivolous usage as there is no monitoring resource in place.
As we see it, the income is open supports as well as contingency not be used to speculate on stocks or skill or anything apart from the dictated purpose.
Already we have been spending tomorrow's income as well as this spells doom for the future generation, who could end up being general beggars or the source of cheap labour.
Malaysians cannot hope for change though removing the problem. The signs have been really obvious - it's necessary to foot out this group of wolves in sheep's clothing.
Oscar Kilo: "If there was indeed (a purchase of the condominium) afterwards definitely such claims would not be disbursed, because the disbursements need the capitulation from the technical committee chaired by the executive of Veterinary Department as well as the Finance Ministry," said Noh Omar.
But the income was disbursed. So how?
L Joy:
The apportion knows he is fibbing undisguised because he certainly contingency have during the single time taken out the bank loan which says the income is for shopping houses only. These fibbing Umno ministers will contend anything, no make the difference how stupid, to fend off questions of impropriety.
There is tainted fool around right from day the single because the supervision has awarded contracts to the top politician's family. Get which right. The supervision contingency be charged for criminal crack of trust, zero less.
Onyourtoes: Please do not rinse your hands on this matter. The association gets the soothing loan from the government, as if during favoured seductiveness rates or though even carrying to compensate it back. How afterwards can we concede the income to be disbursed though correct scrutiny?
It is unthinkable to me the supervision leaders can be which careless. Let me ask we the elementary question - if it is your own money, would we want to do this plan or expend the income which carelessly?
Minister, in the past, corruption used to represent 10 percent of the worth of the project, as well as for that, out of no choice, the people had to stomach it. Now, as we can see, corruption is 90 percent of the worth of the project.
It is not lik! e the pe ople have been of course anti-government or anti-BN. How can the people accept this when those involved in the swindle have been still in office as well as enjoying the great life?
By the way, what happened to the tuna fish plan - we know, catching the tuna in the Indian Ocean as well as towing them to Penang? The holds on this plan have already been issued.! < br>
Pity Him: Donkeys have been smarter. RM181 million has been disbursed though checks as well as balances for the project, as well as they have been treating the nation's income as rightfully theirs.
Bernard Phillips: Does the apportion realise usually how absurd his make the difference is to the public. But perhaps which easily explains usually how the nation is being administered.
For years as we drive around Kuala Lumpur as well as see the lush multimillion dollar bunglows as well as apartments, we consternation usually who could afford to live in them. Well, we need consternation no more. It is the brand new chosen of Malaysian society - those Umno-BN politicians as well as their cronies.
Did the apportion get the 7-10 discount because she is the bumiputera? And who pays for these? The stupid Malaysians who continue to vote in these parasites.
But we do have another event to send the summary to Umno as well as BN. So people set aside your teenager differences - it doesn't make the difference either we have been the Malay or non-Malay, Muslim or non-Muslim.
There is usually the single common foe, the mildew which has permeated the beloved nation digest it diseased as well as ill as well as the laughing stock of the world. Which alternative nation in the universe have been there politicans who so openly rape the resources so unashamedly?
D4f: Money since out is as great as gone to the bottom of the ocean. That's Umno's logic.
Ksn: Was not the loan of RM250 million since for the specific role during low seductiveness rates, viz to produce beef so which the country's import of the beef will be drastically reduced?
Can which loan be used for purposes alternative than specified similar to shopping condos, etc, as well as stupidly call it investment? Is it not the crack of! conditi ons? What about the M&A (memorandum as well as articles) of the company? Does it concede such investments? Should not the directors be hold responsible?
Under the circumstances, should not the loan which is open supports be recalled. Instead of we do things to guarantee as well as direct refunds, we have ministers similar to this one, putting! their h ands up as well as pleading helplessness?
Is it being said here which the supervision is infirm to redress the situation? Will the nation soon hear which the RM250 million is created off as bad debt?
Swipenter: Noh Omar, please discuss it us either the RM181 million so far disbursed to NFC from the SLA (special loan account) was in accordance with progressive work done.
You may not have the answer right away though can we check 'with the technical committee chaired by the executive of the Veterinary Department as well as the Finance Ministry'.
Who verified as well as authorized the tangible earthy swell work finished as well as was it audited thereafter? Everybody knows which swell payments have been disbursed according to tangible amount of work finished though here they certified which there were no cows then.
Was the loan progressively disbursed against paper claims submitted by NFC with no earthy on the site verification?
And the brilliant idea of shopping the RM9.6 penthouse as investment instead of leaving the income resting in the bank by NLMC (National Livestock as well as Meats Corporation) - in the first place, how could NFC accede to the loan to NLMC when there were no cows for them to marketplace then?
Tkc: If the contract was scrupulously drawn up, we am certain there is the clause in there which says which if the supports have been not used for its dictated purposes, the supervision has the right to recall the loans.
There will! also be alternative prerequisites such as expected IRR (internal rate of return), personal guarantees, collaterals, debentures, etc. In short, there have been copiousness of opportunities for the supervision - the appointed guardians of taxpayers' monies - to penalise NFC if it longed for to.
Artchan: The supervision may claim to have no say, though can't the supervision direct some burden from Shahrizat Abdul Jalil's family?
Technically speaking, they cheated. They took the income for the cattle plan as well as used the income to buy the condo. we would expect them to be queried as to why the association drew down the allocation when there were no cows being supplied to the market?
Or is Shahrizat taking Mohd Noh for the cow?
- Malaysiakini
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