"We've got to face a fact which a little people contend you quarrel fire most appropriate with fire, though you contend you put fire out most appropriate with water. We contend you don't quarrel injustice with racism. We're gonna quarrel injustice with solidarity."- Fred Hampton
INTERVIEWIn this second part of a two-part interview, lawyer-cum-activist Haris Ibrahim explained his views upon a Malaysian dilemmas which fuel a conflict in between a forces which claim to represent shift as well as a stream Umno regime.
What is your perspective upon certain movement as well as why do you consider a need-based proceed is needed in Malaysia as well as with a racial make-up of antithesis parties, is a need-based proceed even workable?
My perspective today is as it was 40 years ago, when you contended with my late father which an certain complement which had built in to it a quota system, evidently to preferentially assist a single community, upon considerations of ethnicity rsther than than need-based during a expense of others, would emanate a monster.
It has come to pass.
Today, you have in a midst, members of a Malay village who hold this to be a constitutional right which contingency carry upon until Judgement Day.
We are a abounding nation, natural resources-wise. Those resources applied scrupulously as well as transparently, you should be giving Singapore a run for a recently earned standing as a world's richest nation, per capita-wise.
Instead, 40 percent of a competition prolonged for in poverty, as we! ll as th is will go upon as prolonged as you allow Umno-BN to go upon with a race-based divide as well as rule of a nation.
I do ! not consider it is fair to classify a main antithesis parties as racially made-up. Much of this notice stems from a mainstream media portrayal them as such.
True, DAP has prolonged been viewed as a Chinese-based party, membership-wise, though surely it is to their fundamentals which you contingency look to. And DAP has been creation efforts to woo some-more non-Chinese in to their ranks.
PAS, initial by a Kelab Penyokong PAS as well as right widely separated a non-Muslim wing, is creation efforts to shake up off a Muslim-only facade. Let us also recollect their importance right widely separated upon a gratification state rsther than than a theocratic one.
Having said this, you take a perspective which a push for a need-based certain programme contingency come from a people as well as not a politicians. In this regard, a Social Inclusion Agenda right widely separated being pushed by SABM (Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia) as well as Hakam (National Human Rights Society) deserves careful care by all who have a genuine concern for a 40 percent poor as well as marginalised in a country.
The sermon normally revolves around how Umno has widely separated this republic along racial/religious lines. What purpose (if any) do you consider a non-Malays have played in maintaining those lines?
Umno could not have finished it upon a own.
Post a advent of BN in place of a Alliance, MCA, MIC as well as all a alternative member parties in BN, together with those in Sabah as well as Sarawak, have played a ancillary role.
If nothing else, their leaders looked a alternative approach as Umno weaved a race-based politics in to a fabric of a nation, as well as partook of a looting of a national wealth whilst this was going on.
Do you consider which vernacular schools are an snag to national cohesiveness?
School! s contin gency be for a solitary purpose of imparting hold to a young to hope for them to surpass as tellurian citizens.
Vernacular, or mother-tongue education, should not be seen differently as well as contingency be fully upheld as a basic right of all.
But similar to so most alternative soft matters, vernacular schooling, politicised underneath a charge of Umno-BN, becomes venomous.
Do you consider Islam is an snag to an egalitarian society?
Islam is not. It's politicising as well as being used as a divisive tool by a powers-that-be is.
Leave faith, in any belief system, for which matter, to be a single in between male as well as his Maker to a exclusion of all others, as well as this world - not usually a republic - will be a some-more peaceful place.
How do you perspective a so-called Christian domestic awakening?
I have always known a Catholic village to be some-more politically aware as well as active than a alternative denominations, though you would not classify what you see today as a Christian domestic awakening.
Since a run-up to GE12 to a present time, people generally have turn some-more unwavering of their rights as well as a failings of a present regime, as well as have shown a larger willingness to engage themselves in a processes in a nation.
Do you consider there should be laws to censure h! ate speec! h?
Yes, there should be.
The Sedition Act should be finished widely separated with as well as in a place, a law which criminalises a racist speeches of a likes of (former prime minister) Dr Mahathir Mohamad as well as Perkasa's Ibrahim Ali which might have a bent to boar animosity in between opposite racial groups.
There is no such thing as comprehensive freedom of speech. Libel an individual with antagonistic as well as damning lies as well as be prepared to compensate with a large endowment in damages.
Should antagonistic as well as damning lies desti! ned duri ng no a single in sold though expected to means competition as well as religious tension in between opposite communities and, worse, so intended, go unchecked?
I do not consider so.
Do you consider there should be a competition family act?
Almost all of us have racist tendencies to varying degrees which, wittingly or otherwise, you picked up from a elders as well as we, in turn, pass down to a next generation.
A competition family action which criminalises acts seen as 'racist' will assistance to, in time, weed these tendencies out from a society.
An e.g. might help. We still see coffee shops with signage announcing, 'Please do not spit', even in this day as well as age.
A law to criminalise spitting in any public place, as well as effectively policed as well as enforced by prosecution by a courts, might a single day see those signage turn redundant.
Similarly, if it was a law which if a kid next say, age 15, was listened uttering "keling", "malai quai", or "cina babi", a primogenitor would be charged with an offence, as well as this law was effectively policed as well as enforced, you dare contend you would hear less as well as less of these utterances from destiny generations.
So, yes, you need a competition family act.
What is your perspective upon syariah law as well as do you hold which this dual complement of laws has further widely separated Malaysians?
To share my views upon syariah without running a risk of being grossly misunderstood would need distant some-more space than this interview will allow.
Dual complement of laws?
There is no dual complement of laws written in to a constitution. The supreme law is a federal constitu! tion.
Our higher courts comprise usually a Federal Court, a Court of Appeal as well as a polite high courts.
The syariah courts go to same category of a most alternative courts ordinarily referred to as a inferior tribunals.
What is your perspective upon certain movement as well as why do you consider a need-based proceed is needed in Malaysia as well as with a racial make-up of antithesis parties, is a need-based proceed even workable?
My perspective today is as it was 40 years ago, when you contended with my late father which an certain complement which had built in to it a quota system, evidently to preferentially assist a single community, upon considerations of ethnicity rsther than than need-based during a expense of others, would emanate a monster.
It has come to pass.
Today, you have in a midst, members of a Malay village who hold this to be a constitutional right which contingency carry upon until Judgement Day.We are a abounding nation, natural resources-wise. Those resources applied scrupulously as well as transparently, you should be giving Singapore a run for a recently earned standing as a world's richest nation, per capita-wise.
Instead, 40 percent of a competition prolonged for in poverty, as we! ll as th is will go upon as prolonged as you allow Umno-BN to go upon with a race-based divide as well as rule of a nation.
I do ! not consider it is fair to classify a main antithesis parties as racially made-up. Much of this notice stems from a mainstream media portrayal them as such.
True, DAP has prolonged been viewed as a Chinese-based party, membership-wise, though surely it is to their fundamentals which you contingency look to. And DAP has been creation efforts to woo some-more non-Chinese in to their ranks.
PAS, initial by a Kelab Penyokong PAS as well as right widely separated a non-Muslim wing, is creation efforts to shake up off a Muslim-only facade. Let us also recollect their importance right widely separated upon a gratification state rsther than than a theocratic one.
Having said this, you take a perspective which a push for a need-based certain programme contingency come from a people as well as not a politicians. In this regard, a Social Inclusion Agenda right widely separated being pushed by SABM (Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia) as well as Hakam (National Human Rights Society) deserves careful care by all who have a genuine concern for a 40 percent poor as well as marginalised in a country.
The sermon normally revolves around how Umno has widely separated this republic along racial/religious lines. What purpose (if any) do you consider a non-Malays have played in maintaining those lines?
Umno could not have finished it upon a own.
Post a advent of BN in place of a Alliance, MCA, MIC as well as all a alternative member parties in BN, together with those in Sabah as well as Sarawak, have played a ancillary role.
If nothing else, their leaders looked a alternative approach as Umno weaved a race-based politics in to a fabric of a nation, as well as partook of a looting of a national wealth whilst this was going on.
Do you consider which vernacular schools are an snag to national cohesiveness?
School! s contin gency be for a solitary purpose of imparting hold to a young to hope for them to surpass as tellurian citizens.
Vernacular, or mother-tongue education, should not be seen differently as well as contingency be fully upheld as a basic right of all.
But similar to so most alternative soft matters, vernacular schooling, politicised underneath a charge of Umno-BN, becomes venomous.
Do you consider Islam is an snag to an egalitarian society?
Islam is not. It's politicising as well as being used as a divisive tool by a powers-that-be is.
Leave faith, in any belief system, for which matter, to be a single in between male as well as his Maker to a exclusion of all others, as well as this world - not usually a republic - will be a some-more peaceful place.
How do you perspective a so-called Christian domestic awakening?
I have always known a Catholic village to be some-more politically aware as well as active than a alternative denominations, though you would not classify what you see today as a Christian domestic awakening.
Since a run-up to GE12 to a present time, people generally have turn some-more unwavering of their rights as well as a failings of a present regime, as well as have shown a larger willingness to engage themselves in a processes in a nation.
Do you consider there should be laws to censure h! ate speec! h?
Yes, there should be.
The Sedition Act should be finished widely separated with as well as in a place, a law which criminalises a racist speeches of a likes of (former prime minister) Dr Mahathir Mohamad as well as Perkasa's Ibrahim Ali which might have a bent to boar animosity in between opposite racial groups.
There is no such thing as comprehensive freedom of speech. Libel an individual with antagonistic as well as damning lies as well as be prepared to compensate with a large endowment in damages.
Should antagonistic as well as damning lies desti! ned duri ng no a single in sold though expected to means competition as well as religious tension in between opposite communities and, worse, so intended, go unchecked?
I do not consider so.
Do you consider there should be a competition family act?
Almost all of us have racist tendencies to varying degrees which, wittingly or otherwise, you picked up from a elders as well as we, in turn, pass down to a next generation.
A competition family action which criminalises acts seen as 'racist' will assistance to, in time, weed these tendencies out from a society.An e.g. might help. We still see coffee shops with signage announcing, 'Please do not spit', even in this day as well as age.
A law to criminalise spitting in any public place, as well as effectively policed as well as enforced by prosecution by a courts, might a single day see those signage turn redundant.
Similarly, if it was a law which if a kid next say, age 15, was listened uttering "keling", "malai quai", or "cina babi", a primogenitor would be charged with an offence, as well as this law was effectively policed as well as enforced, you dare contend you would hear less as well as less of these utterances from destiny generations.
So, yes, you need a competition family act.
What is your perspective upon syariah law as well as do you hold which this dual complement of laws has further widely separated Malaysians?
To share my views upon syariah without running a risk of being grossly misunderstood would need distant some-more space than this interview will allow.
Dual complement of laws?
There is no dual complement of laws written in to a constitution. The supreme law is a federal constitu! tion.
Our higher courts comprise usually a Federal Court, a Court of Appeal as well as a polite high courts.
The syariah courts go to same category of a most alternative courts ordinarily referred to as a inferior tribunals.
(Former duke president) Salleh (Abas), chairing a five-man coram of a Federal Court, did not consider so, observant in a box of Che Omar Che Soh a little 24 years ago:
"It can be seen which during a British colonial period, by their complement of indirect rule as well as establishment of secular institutions, Islamic law was rendered isolated in a slight confinement of a law of marriage, divorce as well as inheritance only.
"In a view, it is in this clarity which a framers of a Constitution accepted a definition of a word 'Islam' in a context of Article 3."
To this date, his pronouncement of a law has never been overturned or repudiated.
Epilogue
If you do not mind a lessons of a prolonged Umno watch, perhaps there will come a day when Pakatan has to face an ABU (Anything But Umno) of a own.
Robert Fisk relates how a uncompromising Israeli publisher Amira Haas (Ha'aretz) gave a most appropriate outline of a vocation of a journalist, which was "Our job is to monitor a centres of power".
I would similar to to consider which this is a deeper definition of ABU as well as a purpose you should fool around as adults committed to a domestic process.
"In a view, it is in this clarity which a framers of a Constitution accepted a definition of a word 'Islam' in a context of Article 3."
To this date, his pronouncement of a law has never been overturned or repudiated.
Epilogue
If you do not mind a lessons of a prolonged Umno watch, perhaps there will come a day when Pakatan has to face an ABU (Anything But Umno) of a own.
Robert Fisk relates how a uncompromising Israeli publisher Amira Haas (Ha'aretz) gave a most appropriate outline of a vocation of a journalist, which was "Our job is to monitor a centres of power".
I would similar to to consider which this is a deeper definition of ABU as well as a purpose you should fool around as adults committed to a domestic process.
S THAYAPARAN is Commander (rtd) of a Royal Malaysian Navy.
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