Christian group posed as ustaz, claims witness



A Muslim man, who claimed to haveconverted to Christianity as well as afterwards reverted to Islam, pronounced Christian organization leaders had masqueraded as ustaz to proceed Muslims in sequence to convert them.

Ramli Abdullah (not his genuine name) pronounced this in a highly-anticipated video released by Gombak Setia assemblyperson Hasan Ali, who claimed this to be evidence of organized proselytising of Muslims.

In a 42-minute recording, Ramli pronounced which these people, some of whom were 'orang putih' (Caucasians), wearketayap(skullcaps) andjubah(robes) as well as go to mosques in an attempt to get tighten to Muslims.

"That is how they slowly infiltrate. When they initial proceed Muslims, they do not make use of a Bible though a Quran... this is called a cameo method," claimed Ramli, who worked with a organization after being converted.

"I still recollect when my mother saw this, she asked me who this ustaz was... Their process was really subtle. They used Quranic verses as a overpass for we to cross over as well as after we have crossed in to Christianity, only afterwards will they give we a Bible."

The video talk featuring Ramli, 47, as well as his wife, Zakiah Musa, 42 (not her genuine name), was screened to reporters during Hasan's residence in Kuala Lumpur this afternoon.
NONEHasan(right)had formerly claimed which Christian groups had impersonated Muslims to proceed a community.

Journalists were not supposing copies or allowed to jot down a screening, even yet a faces of a couple were confused as well as their voices distorted.

It appeared to have been available during Hasan's house, as a same lounge as well as curtains were seen in a footage.
'Bapti! sed in a swimming pool'

In his case, Ramli said, a Christian centre had assisted him when he faced illness problems as well as after offering him preserve in Puchong.

"In a beginning, we did not know they were a Christian organisation, though we was captivated by their kindness as well as a approach they treated with colour me," he pronounced in reference to an Australian clergyman who was in assign of a shelter.

"He pronounced everyone who is not Christian will go to ruin as well as which it was really easy for me to be saved. All we had to do was to hold which Jesus was my saviour as well as we would go to heaven."
Ramli was after baptised. As he is a Malay, this was done in a swimming pool during an unit in Jalan Pinang, Kuala Lumpur, instead of in a church.

"After which we was taught Christian prayers as well as taken to attend church masses, we additionally played song for their worship group," he says.

Ramli adds which he was after sent abroad, to investigate during a "disciple precision school".

"When we initial assimilated a organisation, my movements were quite limited. There wasn't most chance of connecting with a others, though after we returned from Singapore as well as worked for them, we met a alternative groups as well as with priest Raymond Koh, who was a leader.."

A week after a meeting in Port Dickson, Ramli says, a priest took him to meet with alternative Malays who had been converted to Christianity.

"It was a initial time we met alternative Malays who have been additionally Christians. They were whole families as well as children, about twenty of them, from Klang."

Ramli says a priest subsequently offering him a permanent job with a organisation, which he took up from 2004-2007 as well as was since a car as well as place to live in a residence in Kelana Jaya, on tip of "support" of between RM2,000 as well as RM5,000 a month.

The organization additionally tasked him with translating a contextual chronicle! of a Ne w Testament in to Malay, so which it could be simply understood by Muslims.

"It (the translated Bible) was to be Muslim-friendly, so which when Muslims read it, they can accept which a Bible is from Allah," he said.

The Christian organisation, Ramli said, has 3 ! units: o ne to support in emergencies as well as natural disasters, one targeted during young kids as well as an additional for HIV patients.
Though Ramli refused to name a organization during a commencement of a interview, he unexpected referred to a NGO Harapan Komuniti whose event was last yearraidedby a Selangor Islamic Affairs Authority (Jais).
When contacted, Harapan Komuniti counsel Annou Xavier shot down claims which a organization is converting Muslims.
"It is obviously an afterthought by Hasan as well as whatever is entrance out from him is obviously hearsay," he said.

Throughout his experience, Ramli said, he had met between 300 as well as 400 Muslims who had converted to Christianity.

He attempted to convert his mother Zakiah to Christianity prior to long prior to marrying her.

According to Hasan's aide, Zakiah too had left Islam though was "brought back" after enchanting with a Save Faith Unit founded by Hasan, who was subsequently introduced to Ramli.

Zakat benefit provided

Hasan pronounced Ramli as well as Zakiah have since been supposing with benefit by a Selangor Zakat Board as well as have been right away rearing chickens for their livelihood.

Ramli's explanation was one of two videos screened to reporters today. Another was a 16-minute edited chronicle of a explanation as well as presented in a documentary format.

Aside from snippets from a interview, a documentary format additionally featured Hasan's take on a emanate of Christian proselytising as well as a scene of him running an alleged apostate to recite a Syahadah in sequence to re-embrace I! slam.

Hasan pronounced he has a third video, which is a 90-minute uncut chronicle of a same interview. He is mulling submitting it to Jais or a Selangor house for investigation.
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