I have been observant what we pronounced not long ago for some-more than 10 years. we have even been observant it upon theFree Anwar Campaignwebsite, a PAS celebration organ,Harakah, as great as a PKR celebration organ,Berita Keadilan. we have not altered my tune. we am still singing a same aged sleepy tune. Only this time we pronounced it in theNew Straits Timesand which a alternative mainstream newspapers chose to collect up.
NO HOLDS BARRED
Raja Petra Kamarudin
There has been a lot of talk not long ago about Raja Petra Kamarudin we do a remarkable U-turn or about-turn. we suspect this is since it is viewed which we am right away vicious of a opposition, in sold PKR, as well as of a leadership, in sold Anwar Ibrahim.
They additionally wish to know since we chose to talk to a mainstream (read: government) media instead of a antithesis media. "And since now?" they ask. "Why not later, after a election?"
Why not now? If not now, afterwards when? You wish me to wait for compartment after a 13th General Election is over as well as Barisan Nasional has won an additional five-year mandate from a electorate to run a country? Would it not be as well late then? Would this not be similar to perplexing to lock a fast doorway after a equine has bolted?
Sheeshwhat do they teach we in school nowadays?
Since some-more than 10 years ago we have been criticising a opposition, in sold PKR, although DAP as well as PAS were not exempted. we additionally criticised many antithesis leaders, not only Anwar Ibrahim.
You can review what we wrote behind in 2001 below, as well as we can review some-more ! here:http://www.freeanwar.net/Raja_Petra.htm
Now, greatfully note which these articles were published in theFree Anwar Campaignwebsite (http://www.freeanwar.net/), which we am still maintaining (and still profitable for it from my own pocket with no payment from Anwar).
The pro-opposition Blogs, headlines portals as well as websites have been perplexing to paint a unfolding of a 'sudden outburst', a 'sudden U-turn' as well as whatnot, as if in a past we have never pronounced what we pronounced upon New Year's Day.
I have been observant what we pronounced not long ago for some-more than 10 years. we have even been observant it upon theFree Anwar Campaignwebsite, a PAS celebration organ,Harakah, as great as a PKR celebration organ,Berita Keadilan. we have not altered my tune. we am still singing a same aged sleepy tune. Only this time we pronounced it in theNew Straits Timesand which a alternative mainstream newspapers chose to collect up.
I suspect which is a issue. we can scream, diatribe as well as rave. But we contingency do it usually in a pro-opposition media as well as Blogs as well as not in a supervision media.
But which is only a problem. For 10 years we have been screaming in a pro-opposition media as well as Blogs. Has anything been done about a problems we raised? Day in as well as day out we still see a same aged shit perpetuating.
However, a instant we contend what we have been observant for 10 years in a supervision media, an earthquake is triggered.
Get my deposit or do we need to verbalise a bit slower?
They additionally wish to know since we chose to talk to a mainstream (read: government) media instead of a antithesis media. "And since now?" they ask. "Why not later, after a election?"
Why not now? If not now, afterwards when? You wish me to wait for compartment after a 13th General Election is over as well as Barisan Nasional has won an additional five-year mandate from a electorate to run a country? Would it not be as well late then? Would this not be similar to perplexing to lock a fast doorway after a equine has bolted?
Sheeshwhat do they teach we in school nowadays?
Since some-more than 10 years ago we have been criticising a opposition, in sold PKR, although DAP as well as PAS were not exempted. we additionally criticised many antithesis leaders, not only Anwar Ibrahim.
You can review what we wrote behind in 2001 below, as well as we can review some-more ! here:http://www.freeanwar.net/Raja_Petra.htm
Now, greatfully note which these articles were published in theFree Anwar Campaignwebsite (http://www.freeanwar.net/), which we am still maintaining (and still profitable for it from my own pocket with no payment from Anwar).
The pro-opposition Blogs, headlines portals as well as websites have been perplexing to paint a unfolding of a 'sudden outburst', a 'sudden U-turn' as well as whatnot, as if in a past we have never pronounced what we pronounced upon New Year's Day.
I have been observant what we pronounced not long ago for some-more than 10 years. we have even been observant it upon theFree Anwar Campaignwebsite, a PAS celebration organ,Harakah, as great as a PKR celebration organ,Berita Keadilan. we have not altered my tune. we am still singing a same aged sleepy tune. Only this time we pronounced it in theNew Straits Timesand which a alternative mainstream newspapers chose to collect up.
I suspect which is a issue. we can scream, diatribe as well as rave. But we contingency do it usually in a pro-opposition media as well as Blogs as well as not in a supervision media.
But which is only a problem. For 10 years we have been screaming in a pro-opposition media as well as Blogs. Has anything been done about a problems we raised? Day in as well as day out we still see a same aged shit perpetuating.
However, a instant we contend what we have been observant for 10 years in a supervision media, an earthquake is triggered.
Get my deposit or do we need to verbalise a bit slower?
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KeADILan's loyal colours suggested - which is a shade of UMNO
The media had likely fireworks in Kemaman. Many had hope! d which keADILan would fall detached due to a exhilarated infighting. Most people had expected zero reduction than a misfortune when Parti Keadilan Nasional held a initial celebration choosing final weekend in Kemaman, Terengganu. However, what came out of it instead was a delightful surprise. The members, in a proof of their maturity, inaugurated a whole brand new group of leaders whom they felt would have firm a party.
The media had played up a ABIM versus ex-UMNO emanate to a hilt. They done it seem similar to there was a energy assault between dual vital groups in keADILan to wrest control of a party. If this were so, afterwards how come Irene Fernandez got in as a Women's Deputy Leader as well as Tian Chua as a single of a 3 Vice Presidents when both have been conjunction ABIM nor ex-UMNO members?
The keADILan competition was only a normal competition for celebration posts. All domestic parties in Malaysia go by it. But when a alternative parties see a competition it is not a large deal. For keADILan, however, it is front-page headlines with doomsday predictions thrown in.! Maybe, as this was a party's initial inner contest, all eyes were upon it to see how it manages a elections with a backdrop of a extreme fight.
It was utterly apparent which a competition was between groups as well as not people as scarcely each nominee was armed with a complete list of who to opinion for. There might have been about 3 or 4 variations of this list though a main players would be what were viewed as a ex-UMNO organisation of Abdul Rahman Othman, Saifuddin Nasution, Azmin Ali as well as a ABIM organisation of Dr Mohd Nur Manuty, Mustaffa Kamil, Anuar Tahir as well as Ruslan Kassim.
As in any retard voting, an complete group would be voted in as well as a alternative sidelined. In this case, a viewed ex-UMNO organisation came in as a winner. How unhappy a "other side" was during losing was demonstrated when many who lost did not attend a shutting event of a AGM. It was estimated which usually a! bout 300 of a 1,004 representatives incited up which puts to question either there was any quorum for a shutting session.
Party President Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail attempted to clear a tall absentee rate by explaining which many had to lapse to their hometowns or go behind to work. But no volume of explaining could diffuse a impression which these were bruise losers who would rather boycott a superfluous event of a AGM since they did not get voted in.
If this is a perspective of a losers afterwards maybe, in a initial place, it was best which they did not win. Everybody knows how to conduct victory. Only a grown know how to conduct defeat. And if this is a proof of how they conduct defeat, afterwards they have been positively not grown sufficient yet to lead a party.
The campaigning was an additional source of anxiety. Some of a campaign strategy were rather unwashed as well as centered upon impression assassination. In a euphoria to win seats as well as improved their rivals, some possibilities would resort to anything only as long as they win in a end. It was great which these people did not win as this is positively an diseased culture which shou! ld be re jected.
KeADILan preaches probity as well as fair-play as well as urges a proletariat to reject a hurtful Barisan Nasional as well as a heading partner UMNO. However, some of a keADILan leaders showed which they have been no improved than a BN or UMNO leaders. Why, therefore, would Malaysians need to kick out a ruling celebration only to replace it with a celebration which has a same practices as well as culture?
The subsequent competition will be in Mar 2002 when a some-more than 120 divisions will be up for grabs. If a recent AGM was anything to go by, design an equally exhilarated as well as unwashed competition during a division elections. If this happens, this would be a beginning of a finish for a party.
Many supporters have been disgusted with what they saw a final month or so with reported unwashed strategy ! a la UMN O as well as fist fights during MPT meetings. Some of a die-hards have been right away apropos cold towards a celebration as well as no longer wish to await it. They feel keADILan has deviated from a right path as well as has spin only an additional domestic party. Worse than that, it has spin an additional UMNO-like party.
If keADILan wants to continue getting a await of a people, it needs to denote which it is a grown as well as responsible party. The exam would be in Mar subsequent year when a campaigning for a local elections heats up. If a Kemaman event is repeated, afterwards design many to spin their backs upon a celebration for good.
26 Nov 2001
http://www.freeanwar.net/articles/article251101.htm
The media had likely fireworks in Kemaman. Many had hope! d which keADILan would fall detached due to a exhilarated infighting. Most people had expected zero reduction than a misfortune when Parti Keadilan Nasional held a initial celebration choosing final weekend in Kemaman, Terengganu. However, what came out of it instead was a delightful surprise. The members, in a proof of their maturity, inaugurated a whole brand new group of leaders whom they felt would have firm a party.
The media had played up a ABIM versus ex-UMNO emanate to a hilt. They done it seem similar to there was a energy assault between dual vital groups in keADILan to wrest control of a party. If this were so, afterwards how come Irene Fernandez got in as a Women's Deputy Leader as well as Tian Chua as a single of a 3 Vice Presidents when both have been conjunction ABIM nor ex-UMNO members?
The keADILan competition was only a normal competition for celebration posts. All domestic parties in Malaysia go by it. But when a alternative parties see a competition it is not a large deal. For keADILan, however, it is front-page headlines with doomsday predictions thrown in.! Maybe, as this was a party's initial inner contest, all eyes were upon it to see how it manages a elections with a backdrop of a extreme fight.
It was utterly apparent which a competition was between groups as well as not people as scarcely each nominee was armed with a complete list of who to opinion for. There might have been about 3 or 4 variations of this list though a main players would be what were viewed as a ex-UMNO organisation of Abdul Rahman Othman, Saifuddin Nasution, Azmin Ali as well as a ABIM organisation of Dr Mohd Nur Manuty, Mustaffa Kamil, Anuar Tahir as well as Ruslan Kassim.
As in any retard voting, an complete group would be voted in as well as a alternative sidelined. In this case, a viewed ex-UMNO organisation came in as a winner. How unhappy a "other side" was during losing was demonstrated when many who lost did not attend a shutting event of a AGM. It was estimated which usually a! bout 300 of a 1,004 representatives incited up which puts to question either there was any quorum for a shutting session.
Party President Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail attempted to clear a tall absentee rate by explaining which many had to lapse to their hometowns or go behind to work. But no volume of explaining could diffuse a impression which these were bruise losers who would rather boycott a superfluous event of a AGM since they did not get voted in.
If this is a perspective of a losers afterwards maybe, in a initial place, it was best which they did not win. Everybody knows how to conduct victory. Only a grown know how to conduct defeat. And if this is a proof of how they conduct defeat, afterwards they have been positively not grown sufficient yet to lead a party.
The campaigning was an additional source of anxiety. Some of a campaign strategy were rather unwashed as well as centered upon impression assassination. In a euphoria to win seats as well as improved their rivals, some possibilities would resort to anything only as long as they win in a end. It was great which these people did not win as this is positively an diseased culture which shou! ld be re jected.
KeADILan preaches probity as well as fair-play as well as urges a proletariat to reject a hurtful Barisan Nasional as well as a heading partner UMNO. However, some of a keADILan leaders showed which they have been no improved than a BN or UMNO leaders. Why, therefore, would Malaysians need to kick out a ruling celebration only to replace it with a celebration which has a same practices as well as culture?
The subsequent competition will be in Mar 2002 when a some-more than 120 divisions will be up for grabs. If a recent AGM was anything to go by, design an equally exhilarated as well as unwashed competition during a division elections. If this happens, this would be a beginning of a finish for a party.
Many supporters have been disgusted with what they saw a final month or so with reported unwashed strategy ! a la UMN O as well as fist fights during MPT meetings. Some of a die-hards have been right away apropos cold towards a celebration as well as no longer wish to await it. They feel keADILan has deviated from a right path as well as has spin only an additional domestic party. Worse than that, it has spin an additional UMNO-like party.
If keADILan wants to continue getting a await of a people, it needs to denote which it is a grown as well as responsible party. The exam would be in Mar subsequent year when a campaigning for a local elections heats up. If a Kemaman event is repeated, afterwards design many to spin their backs upon a celebration for good.
26 Nov 2001
http://www.freeanwar.net/articles/article251101.htm
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Welcome to a Real World
From a 8th to 11th Nov 2001, a National Justice Party (keADILan), which was dual as well as a half years aged upon 4 October, will be confronting a initial celebration election. As anticipated, as shortly as a Sarawak State Elections finished as well as with reduction than preferred results, might we supplement a campaigning exhilarated up.
Deputy President Dr Chandra Muzaffar's decision not to seek re-election, followed by Hamdan Tahar's abdication from a celebration under unhappy circumstances, expel a glum unfolding indeed. Earlier, a single of a party's 3 Vice Presidents, Zainur Zakaria, who is additionally a single of Anwar Ibrahim's solicitors, announced his withdrawal as well. Zainur had, in fact, filled which post when an additional Vice President, Marina Yusoff, quiescent in a pant a year or so earlier.
Less publicized was Johari Abdul's abdication from a Supreme Council, a celebrity strongly related to a Reformasi transformation as well as regarded as a single of a masterminds. This serve widened a opening between a celebration as well as a Ref! ormasi t ransformation which claims it is being sidelined though a celebration would not have existed if not for a movement.
Rumou! rs have been r ife which serve resignations have been in a cards as well as time will attest to this speculation. But people come as well as people go and, during a finish of a day, a single has to allow to a philosophy which no a single is indispensable. If keADILan falls detached since of a exit of a couple of key figures, afterwards it is no celebration to begin of with, as a domestic celebration cannot develop around a handful of people.
At initial peek it looks bad. KeADILan appears to be breaking apart. And, from a feedback received, this is positively a perception of those upon a outward looking in.
The celebration supporters out there have been intensely disappointed. Some have been even indignant as well as verbalise about a present goings-on with a sour tone in their voice. They ask, were they wrong about a celebration as well as have they squandered a final 3 years supporting Reformasi as well as a celebration only to see a demise even before it can have inroads in to Malaysian politics?
This is understandable. They had heralded keADILan's birth as a coming of brand new governing body for Malaysia. They saw this brand new party, mothered by Reformasi as well as done possible due to a Anwar Ibrahim domestic crisis, as a future. They saw change as well as reformation upon a setting as well as a finish to hurtful as well as secular governing body - where zero is regarded as incorrigible - which has been a supposed normal for Malaysia these final 3 generations.
Also distinct is a actuality which keADILan's supporters have been idealists. They had always shunned governing body as well as politicians. But when they saw what they suspicion was a purity of a brand new party, they rallied forth. Some never voted in their hold up as well as now, for a initial time, they actually registered as electorate to fool around their purpose in ensuring a b! rand new celebration garnered sufficient votes to have a disproportion may be even sufficient votes to form a subsequent government.
Now they realize which keADILan iswell, only an additional domestic party, as well as they have been disappointed. They do not wish only an additional domestic party. They wish a different kind of party, as well as they stood up to be co! unted be cause they suspicion it would be a different kind of party.
Well, welcome to a genuine world! KeADILan is an additional domestic party, though with slight twist. To be realistic, keADILan needs to be an additional domestic celebration to final a distance. If it was which ideal, strait-laced, as well as almost virtuous celebration which many suspicion it was as well as wish it would be, afterwards it would be cursed from a word go.
Let's face reality. KeADILan is up against UMNO. UMNO is no spiritual organisation. UMNO fights dirty. Anything goes as distant as UMNO is concerned. UMNO will stoop to anything to win a elections and, given half a chance, will wipe a still-wet-behind-the-ears keADILan from a face of this earth.
Can keADILan withstand UMNO's assault if it fought with kid gloves? KeADILan as well needs to be devious, street-wise, as well as blood thirsty to kick UMNO during a own game. So, keADILan as well needs to be an additional domestic celebration to do this.
We have been presently saying what we believe is misunderstanding in a party. We have been saying factionalism as well as groupings shaped - each perplexing to outmaneuver a other. We have been saying conflict lines being drawn. We have been finally saying a determined possibilities behaving only similar to any normal politician would.
But what is so wrong with this? What's wrong if keADILan's leaders as well as determined leaders action similar to politicians? This is, after all, what governing body is all about. Politics is about contesting, as well as winning. It is about maneuvers as well as strategies. It is about outdoin! g as wel l as outsmarting your opponents.
KeADILan has so distant never held any inner celebration elections. Seven months after it was formed, it faced a initial ubiquitous election, followed by a couple of by-elections and, many recently, a Sarawak State Election. There was zero purify about these elections. As Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad betrothed in Nov 1999, a Tenth General Election was a dirtiest in a history of this country. And keADILan was ill prepared for all this.
KeADILan needs to learn how to fight,! as well as how to quarrel dirty. If it cannot even get by an inner celebration election, how does it face UMNO in a subsequent ubiquitous election? Contests have been good. That's what governing body is all about. How a single prepares for this competition is additionally very important. Slogans alone have been not enough. Idealism does not cut any ice with a voters. One needs to do some-more than which to have any headway in Malaysian politics.
We should not demeanour during a imminent celebration competition as something negative. KeADILan needs to go by this as well as a faster a better. As it is, a competition is already as well long overdue. The present crop of leaders was never elected, they were all allocated - a President included. They right away need to legitimize their positions by getting inaugurated in to office.
So, a fighting is intense. Well, as they say, if a glow is as well hot get out off a kitchen. If we think it is hot now, only wait for until a subsequent ubiquitous choosing comes around. It's starting to be worse than this as well as worse as well than a final ubiquitous choosing in 1999.
So, there have been groups as well as camps. So what? Politics is about allies. Show me a single domestic celebration which does not work upon a principle of allying yourself. Some members as well as determined leaders feel which it should be a "clean" fight. What do they mean by clean? Do they mean everyone should be an "independent" claimant! as well as not belong to any team.
Politics does not work which way. If each infantryman were to do conflict as Lone Rangers, but being partial of an army, he would die a initial day in to battle. Have we even seen a football diversion won by a garland of Prima Donas? If there were no group as well as no teamwork they would never win a match.
On either a possibilities badmouth each alternative as well as make use of money to win, we suspect a members will have to confirm upon this one. Fighting is a single thing as well as slandering is another. The members will have to denote their majority by rejecting uncouth aspirants. And if they still get inaugurated in to bureau neverthelesswell, afterwards substantially those which ! left bef ore this knew what they were doing.
1 Nov 2001
http://www.freeanwar.net/articles/article011101b.htm
Read More @ Source From a 8th to 11th Nov 2001, a National Justice Party (keADILan), which was dual as well as a half years aged upon 4 October, will be confronting a initial celebration election. As anticipated, as shortly as a Sarawak State Elections finished as well as with reduction than preferred results, might we supplement a campaigning exhilarated up.
Deputy President Dr Chandra Muzaffar's decision not to seek re-election, followed by Hamdan Tahar's abdication from a celebration under unhappy circumstances, expel a glum unfolding indeed. Earlier, a single of a party's 3 Vice Presidents, Zainur Zakaria, who is additionally a single of Anwar Ibrahim's solicitors, announced his withdrawal as well. Zainur had, in fact, filled which post when an additional Vice President, Marina Yusoff, quiescent in a pant a year or so earlier.
Less publicized was Johari Abdul's abdication from a Supreme Council, a celebrity strongly related to a Reformasi transformation as well as regarded as a single of a masterminds. This serve widened a opening between a celebration as well as a Ref! ormasi t ransformation which claims it is being sidelined though a celebration would not have existed if not for a movement.
Rumou! rs have been r ife which serve resignations have been in a cards as well as time will attest to this speculation. But people come as well as people go and, during a finish of a day, a single has to allow to a philosophy which no a single is indispensable. If keADILan falls detached since of a exit of a couple of key figures, afterwards it is no celebration to begin of with, as a domestic celebration cannot develop around a handful of people.
At initial peek it looks bad. KeADILan appears to be breaking apart. And, from a feedback received, this is positively a perception of those upon a outward looking in.
The celebration supporters out there have been intensely disappointed. Some have been even indignant as well as verbalise about a present goings-on with a sour tone in their voice. They ask, were they wrong about a celebration as well as have they squandered a final 3 years supporting Reformasi as well as a celebration only to see a demise even before it can have inroads in to Malaysian politics?
This is understandable. They had heralded keADILan's birth as a coming of brand new governing body for Malaysia. They saw this brand new party, mothered by Reformasi as well as done possible due to a Anwar Ibrahim domestic crisis, as a future. They saw change as well as reformation upon a setting as well as a finish to hurtful as well as secular governing body - where zero is regarded as incorrigible - which has been a supposed normal for Malaysia these final 3 generations.
Also distinct is a actuality which keADILan's supporters have been idealists. They had always shunned governing body as well as politicians. But when they saw what they suspicion was a purity of a brand new party, they rallied forth. Some never voted in their hold up as well as now, for a initial time, they actually registered as electorate to fool around their purpose in ensuring a b! rand new celebration garnered sufficient votes to have a disproportion may be even sufficient votes to form a subsequent government.
Now they realize which keADILan iswell, only an additional domestic party, as well as they have been disappointed. They do not wish only an additional domestic party. They wish a different kind of party, as well as they stood up to be co! unted be cause they suspicion it would be a different kind of party.
Well, welcome to a genuine world! KeADILan is an additional domestic party, though with slight twist. To be realistic, keADILan needs to be an additional domestic celebration to final a distance. If it was which ideal, strait-laced, as well as almost virtuous celebration which many suspicion it was as well as wish it would be, afterwards it would be cursed from a word go.
Let's face reality. KeADILan is up against UMNO. UMNO is no spiritual organisation. UMNO fights dirty. Anything goes as distant as UMNO is concerned. UMNO will stoop to anything to win a elections and, given half a chance, will wipe a still-wet-behind-the-ears keADILan from a face of this earth.
Can keADILan withstand UMNO's assault if it fought with kid gloves? KeADILan as well needs to be devious, street-wise, as well as blood thirsty to kick UMNO during a own game. So, keADILan as well needs to be an additional domestic celebration to do this.
We have been presently saying what we believe is misunderstanding in a party. We have been saying factionalism as well as groupings shaped - each perplexing to outmaneuver a other. We have been saying conflict lines being drawn. We have been finally saying a determined possibilities behaving only similar to any normal politician would.
But what is so wrong with this? What's wrong if keADILan's leaders as well as determined leaders action similar to politicians? This is, after all, what governing body is all about. Politics is about contesting, as well as winning. It is about maneuvers as well as strategies. It is about outdoin! g as wel l as outsmarting your opponents.
KeADILan has so distant never held any inner celebration elections. Seven months after it was formed, it faced a initial ubiquitous election, followed by a couple of by-elections and, many recently, a Sarawak State Election. There was zero purify about these elections. As Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad betrothed in Nov 1999, a Tenth General Election was a dirtiest in a history of this country. And keADILan was ill prepared for all this.
KeADILan needs to learn how to fight,! as well as how to quarrel dirty. If it cannot even get by an inner celebration election, how does it face UMNO in a subsequent ubiquitous election? Contests have been good. That's what governing body is all about. How a single prepares for this competition is additionally very important. Slogans alone have been not enough. Idealism does not cut any ice with a voters. One needs to do some-more than which to have any headway in Malaysian politics.
We should not demeanour during a imminent celebration competition as something negative. KeADILan needs to go by this as well as a faster a better. As it is, a competition is already as well long overdue. The present crop of leaders was never elected, they were all allocated - a President included. They right away need to legitimize their positions by getting inaugurated in to office.
So, a fighting is intense. Well, as they say, if a glow is as well hot get out off a kitchen. If we think it is hot now, only wait for until a subsequent ubiquitous choosing comes around. It's starting to be worse than this as well as worse as well than a final ubiquitous choosing in 1999.
So, there have been groups as well as camps. So what? Politics is about allies. Show me a single domestic celebration which does not work upon a principle of allying yourself. Some members as well as determined leaders feel which it should be a "clean" fight. What do they mean by clean? Do they mean everyone should be an "independent" claimant! as well as not belong to any team.
Politics does not work which way. If each infantryman were to do conflict as Lone Rangers, but being partial of an army, he would die a initial day in to battle. Have we even seen a football diversion won by a garland of Prima Donas? If there were no group as well as no teamwork they would never win a match.
On either a possibilities badmouth each alternative as well as make use of money to win, we suspect a members will have to confirm upon this one. Fighting is a single thing as well as slandering is another. The members will have to denote their majority by rejecting uncouth aspirants. And if they still get inaugurated in to bureau neverthelesswell, afterwards substantially those which ! left bef ore this knew what they were doing.
1 Nov 2001
http://www.freeanwar.net/articles/article011101b.htm
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